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An image showing social media posts where user writes story about vibe coding: I just want to say that I am giving up on creating anything anymore. I was trying to create my little project, but every time there are more and more errors and I am sick of <br />it. I am working on it for about 3 months, I do not have any experience with coding and was doing everything through AI (Cursor, ChatGPT etc.). But everytime I want to change a liiiiitle thing, I kill 4 days debugging other things that go south. So I do <br />not have any more energy in me to work on this. It is hopeless. AI is still just sooooooo stupid and it will fix one thing but destroy 10 other things in your code. I am really sad, because I was enjoying it in the beginnings but now it is just pain and <br />rage. Hat down for those people, who can create something and it is working without coding knowledge.

2025-07-06 21:41:02

nixCraft 🐧

nixCraft@mastodon.social

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2025-07-06 21:45:47

Matthew Malthouse

calmeilles@mstdn.social

@nixCraft

Hunting down all those bugs might actually have taught them something useful about coding.

But instead of using that…

2025-07-06 21:51:46

dotoscat

dotoscat@mastodon.xyz

@nixcraft bruh!

2025-07-06 21:54:12

Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈

Lazarou@mastodon.social

@nixCraft this has "All My Apes Gone" energy about it, it's beautiful.

2025-07-06 21:54:27

Alex

alex02@cyberplace.social

@nixCraft now imagine the pain before ai... lol

2025-07-06 21:57:28

Christoffer S.

nopatience@swecyb.com

@nixCraft For anyone interested in the thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaaS/comments/1lp3scg/i_am_giving_up/

2025-07-06 22:02:42

Will :tux: :vim: :cupofcoffee:

will@fosstodon.org

@nixCraft he/she should have spent time learning to code. This is the problem with the AI tools you can not debug/fix/tweak code you do not understand.
“Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it” ~Brian W. Kernighan
AI can’t grow and learn the way a human developer does and will never be able to debug the code it writes. Neither will vibe coders!

2025-07-06 22:09:21

Daniele Pantaleo 🦥:verified:

ozone89@techhub.social

@nixCraft I'm shit at writing code (not good at math and algos), yet I refuse to use AI or similar to get even remotely near my code, but instead take long stop periods (even months, it's hobby projects anyway) and come back with a fresh mind and better understanding of the language involved.

2025-07-06 22:13:20

RejZoR

rejzor@mastodon.social

@nixCraft I had my own Autohotkey code and to translate it to new syntax it would require god knows how many hours to learn it. So I dumped it into Ai to convert it. New code was beautiful, even had comments that I didn't have. When I tried compling code with new Ai converted V2 syntax it was error after error for every god damn line lol. I was removing lines to see when it will work and gave up when I removed half of the code.

2025-07-06 22:31:46

Internet Rando

mousey@mastodon.seattlematrix.org

@nixCraft "hats off to people who can create without coding knowledge."

Dunning-Kruger meets Dunning-Kruger automation

2025-07-06 22:45:12

Lord Caramac the Clueless, KSC

LordCaramac@discordian.social

@nixCraft I totally suck at complex software projects, so I mostly stick to coding quick and dirty command line tools that do just one thing.

2025-07-06 22:45:35

Galad

galad@mastodon.social

@nixCraft With the amount of work it takes to get AI to do things right you’re better off doing them yourself.

2025-07-06 22:51:10

Dustin

digitalkrampus@mastodon.social

@nixCraft who are these people who have NO coding knowledge and can make things work?

I DO have coding knowledge and always struggle to make things work!

2025-07-06 22:53:12

Scott Miller 🇺🇦 🇺🇸

scottmiller42@mstdn.social

@nixCraft FWIW, some of that frustration happens to traditional coders with decades of hard-earned experience.

Ever code a latent bug that was never manifest because your system never triggered the edge case before, but then you add a feature that hits that edge case and brings the bug front & center? You spend hours looking at the new code but can't find the bug? Only when you grind away, examining the existing code base, do you find the latent bug.

Experience is a great teacher.

2025-07-06 23:01:19

h-1^[legacy]

hollowone@graphics.social

@nixCraft that's right... we still have a job.. people who can't code at all, will still come to us to code with AI :)

2025-07-06 23:10:32

cedill-aïl aux olives

cedilla@bark.lgbt

@nixCraft
The whole thing is that, "coding" isn't just about writing the code.

I spend more time reading, (trying to) understanding, reformating and correcting micro-small-nano mistakes from me/others than actually writing long 1000 lines of code.

(The joke is that I mainly do code quality assurance)

EDIT: english not my native language

2025-07-06 23:15:23

I AM BANKSY ☕ / 🗑‍🔥

xinit@mastodon.coffee

@nixCraft
Let the pain come! Feel the rage flow! This is the way of true developer powers!

2025-07-06 23:26:54

stony kark

aapis@mastodon.world

@nixCraft maybe actually learn how stuff works then bud

2025-07-06 23:48:43

BoxOfSnoo

boxofsnoo@social.linux.pizza

@nixCraft I’ve slowly been introducing AI to my coding and have had phenomenal results. The key is knowing if it gives you back garbage or not! The newer products will give you a “keep/undo” button, and it takes some skill not only to make the prompt but to know what to keep/undo.

2025-07-07 00:00:29

Hamilton Lumati

hamiltonlumati@mastodon.social

@nixCraft he didn't say please to the AIs, so they started giving him wrong codes

2025-07-07 00:11:06

GhostOnTheHalfShell

GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai

@nixCraft

So what this is saying is the what probably $1 trillion of money incinerated into AI into copilots has managed to reinvent spaghetti code

2025-07-07 00:15:17

Spiritech

Spiritech@mastodon.social

@nixCraft I really like the end. Instead of gaining any appreciation for actual devs, they give their hats off to the person(s) who pull working AI code like its a super rare pokemon card.

2025-07-07 00:16:26

lord pthenq1

pthenq1@mastodon.la

@nixCraft
Here is an idea: let's use AI to make medicine! :ablobcatcoffee:

2025-07-07 00:27:49

Wulfy—Speaker to the machines

n_dimension@infosec.exchange

@nixCraft

Been there #vibecoding myself.

Like writing Emperors human purity certified code, you need to spend a fair chunk of your time designing. If you are just going to hack at the wall of code without design, you're going to have a bad time.

There are techniques for coding, vibe or not.
This person is very likely poor coder, vibe ain't gonna save them.

It works for me.

2025-07-07 00:38:53

Tyler Parker

tylerparker@mastodon.social

@nixCraft first learn the rules - to comprehend when breaking them.

2025-07-07 00:41:50

geomaster337

geomaster337@mastodon.social

@nixCraft going forward, can we get a Reddit content warning or at least its presence in the post/ alt text so we can filter it out? Thanks!

2025-07-07 00:50:15

MegatronicThronBanks

megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.social

@nixCraft Those mythical people!

2025-07-07 00:55:32

Sharlatan

sharlatan@mastodon.social

@nixCraft oh my god 🤣 "I waste 3 months..." Driving a car or bicycle would take even longer and yeh.. baby would need bloody 2y before the first step

2025-07-07 01:02:55

Paxil

Paxil@mastodon.social

@nixCraft I used to party with this guy: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1080695.Aim_Low

2025-07-07 01:22:09

blami

blami@mastodon.online

@nixCraft dude living programmer's day at work without even learning to code

2025-07-07 01:46:21

Break the ICE 🇺🇦 🇵🇸

gcobbum@mas.to

@nixCraft

Bad vibes!!

2025-07-07 02:16:44

delProfundo

delProfundo@aus.social

@nixCraft still waiting for one working example of a complete useful app.

2025-07-07 03:02:59

Nullstring 🏴‍☠️

0x00string@infosec.exchange

@nixCraft ship it

2025-07-07 03:19:59

Face Thumb

chrisp@cyberplace.social

@nixCraft Could have learned python in that 3 months

2025-07-07 03:24:55

Jimmy Hoke

jimmyhoke@fosstodon.org

@nixCraft Hmm, maybe vibe coders are real coders after all.

2025-07-07 03:47:37

Pomegranate County Irregulars

pomCountyIrregs@mstdn.social

@nixCraft To quote Stevie Wonder “When you believe in things that you don’t understand, then you suffer.”

Disclaimer for unproven proposition: Vibe Coding is a superstitious practice.

2025-07-07 04:28:17

flythe10🧢🧳🌎

flythe10@mastodon.social

@nixCraft creativity is very depressing. An open mind and all the imagination your brain mathematically moves the ones and zeroes can be stifling, over and over. Step away, sing an old song from elementary school you sang without encumbrances of the World. Hug a dog. Look at the billions of stars, pick a section of the sky each night. If it rains, even better, the Earth needs replenishment. Like your soul. Read your Mad magazine’s, if none, write one. Turn your tv to the O-F-F position

2025-07-07 05:24:40

the gripe ibis

thegarbagebird@theblower.au

@nixCraft that last line is a doozy

2025-07-07 06:01:52

14mission

14mission@sfba.social

@nixCraft I hate to say it but I'm giving up on practicing medicine. I don't have a medical degree, but I do exactly what ChatGPT tells me to do. But all the patients keep dying!

2025-07-07 06:05:26

Welkin

welkin7@mstdn.party

@nixCraft AI is good for bootstrap coding or initial coding. Beyond that it is not.

2025-07-07 06:06:19

haku

haku2@mastodon.social

@nixCraft if you don't know how to write code why bother yourself go create anime with ai

2025-07-07 06:09:06

stevenray

stevenray@sfba.social

@nixCraft LOL. Wow.

2025-07-07 06:55:43

Bluebabbler

bluebabbler@mastodon.social

@nixCraft I can't laugh at poor SpacetimeSorcerer's experience. He was scammed, literally, by those who promised him that he could write software without knowing anything about writing software. And I wish him a fresh start, learning by mistakes, and studying. Competence is gained through experience.

2025-07-07 07:07:02

iveyline

iveyline@mastodon.world

@nixCraft Because AI is a misnomer and there is nothing intelligent about it, you can only get out what was put in. There is nothing creative about AI. That's a human trait.

2025-07-07 09:28:34

Aedius Filmania ⚙️🎮🖊️

Aedius@lavraievie.social

@nixCraft

The sad part is that 3 month is likely enough for this person to learn how to code a rough MVP of his/her project.

2025-07-07 10:16:04

Glen T, heated, not stirred

glent@aus.social

@nixCraft The person clearly wants to develop software, has been banging their head against the hardest part of the craft, and their choice of tools let them down.

Before people say "start with real tools", here are the instructions for using the beginner-friendly Python language to make an IOS app:

https://kivy.org/doc/stable/guide/packaging-ios.html

The industry has clearly let down beginning programmers. Let's not blame them for choosing ridiculous places to start from when we have not provided sane places to start from.

2025-07-07 10:30:41

Deni Mintsaev (mintydev)

mintydev@mastodon.social

@nixCraft poor fella

2025-07-07 10:58:27

Bleep

bleepbloop@ravenation.club

@nixCraft this is my hot take on using AI to help you code: it can be super helpful if you already know how to code. https://ravenation.club/@bleepbloop/114807711381898033

2025-07-07 11:23:42

Hanna

hannat@mastodontti.fi

@nixCraft

You still need to know how to code, you can't just blindly trust AI.

2025-07-07 12:17:38

HadrienMP

hadrienmp@mastodon.top

@nixCraft this has been my experience with « vibe coding » too. I am a developer and I am not good at prompting. But even following a precise protocole that sounded solid, the AI could not even produce the first code slice with working tests. Sooooo no thanks #vibecoding

2025-07-07 17:06:45

Jzero

GuerillaOntologist@social.coop

@nixCraft He must be prompting it wrong...

2025-07-07 22:50:10

arosano 🇩🇰 🇮🇱

arosano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@nixCraft Peter Norvig says it takes 10000 hours to learn to program. It seems that AI does not provide a shortcut. Why am I not surprised?

2025-07-08 05:14:18

abhijit86k

abhijit86k@mastodon.social

@nixCraft
I'm seeing this with some of my students... When something breaks they copy-paste the error into AI to ask for the solution.

But when the program does something strange (or at times nothing at all) and there are 0 warnings and 0 errors, that's when they are totally flummoxed!